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By  Priscilla, at 9:33 am, March 08, 2006  

As Nato mentioned in his latest blog posts, the term Christian as the general public see it has a far reaching definition.

In Biblical reality, its a person who is saved by faith in the merits of Christ alone. And as such the fruits of the spirit exhibit themselves which produces the lifestyle that we term 'christian'.

Wasn't Mr Blair at the Pope's funeral partacing of the blasphemous mass? (that term from Rod Bell Sr I believe)

As for what he personally believes... no I didn't notice from his public statements and apperances that he was living a Christian lifestyle. I can say the same of Bush - that I haven't seen any proof of his claims.

By  Anonymous, at 3:18 pm, March 08, 2006  

*partaking

By  Anonymous, at 3:19 pm, March 08, 2006  

Well *is* obviously

By  Anita, at 3:59 pm, March 08, 2006  

Allan - judging by the number of times you have been at public worship recently uncharitable people could make certain assumptions.

And this would be perhaps as unjustified as your statements about Bush and Blair. Your observations are based on others observations. The people who report on them probably don't even know them. Maybe they are saved, maybe they are not.

I don't think we should sit back and slag off other people. We should each look to ourselves and see if there is evidence of our faith. Check out 2 Peter 1:10.

By  Scotty, at 4:03 pm, March 08, 2006  

Well I am reluctant to pass judgement on anyone's decision to attend a funeral or any other catholic service. I have attended catholic ceremonies and non Christian funerals - why - because it would be rude and unchristian not to. For the prime Minster of England not to attend the Pope funeral would offend numerous amounts of people. Sometime it is the right thing to do to 'make a point' other times peoples feelings come first esp in a death situation.

As for his lifestyle- well I don't see anything anti-Christian. He is a committed family man. He talked about his faith on the Parkinson Show which was why I 'found out' he was a Christain.

By  Anita, at 4:08 pm, March 08, 2006  

Scott has a point....

By  Anita, at 4:14 pm, March 08, 2006  

just outta interest, is he from an Anglican type background?

and yeah i agree with Scott.

By  Priscilla, at 6:54 pm, March 08, 2006  

I went to a Catholic wedding recently - and was heartened by some of the things that took place.

By  Scotty, at 10:54 pm, March 08, 2006  

1. Yes I'm slack.

2. I'm making my conclusions on what I personally have seen and heard them say/do.

3. Would you partake of the mass because 'its the christian thing to do'?

By  Anonymous, at 10:09 am, March 09, 2006  

Point 2... I think what Scott is saying is that you have only seen/heard what the media wants you to. You don't get to see or hear a large amount of what goes on in these peoples lives. And what you have seen or heard could be, and can quite often be, out of context.

By  Jonathan, at 1:09 pm, March 09, 2006  

Point 2:-

People may also make {wrong} conclusions about YOU because they don't see you participating in public worship.

It is only once they know you that they would say "Ahh what I see (or not see in this case) does not mean what I assumed at first".

I say the same could apply for these leaders.

By  Scotty, at 11:00 pm, March 09, 2006  

actually, whether they know details or not, that doesn't change the fact I'm still slack :-p

Re Bush... I was thinking fo his quaran is God's word comments. his mouth, his views, and he never refuted it publicly after it hit the media.

As for my protestant position... the Papal system hasn't changed its position, but the protestors have stopped protesting and compromised.

I have a great sermon somewhere here titled 'the evil of ecumenism'. Anyway... I'm gettling lost in thought here so I'll shudup now :-)

By  Anonymous, at 3:57 pm, March 10, 2006  

Point 3- I never suggested actually partaking in a mass. I was only talking about attending catholic services, but I probably wouldn't take mass.

By  Anita, at 2:16 pm, March 13, 2006  

You'll find the mass in almost every roman ceremony.

And it'd be a good idea not to take it due to the blasphemous nature of eating one's God (thats the official position reguardless of what the individual members think. in the roman system the pope makes the rules. not the people or heaven forbid the Bible)

By  Anonymous, at 8:13 pm, March 15, 2006  

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